https://xboxdevwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Manufacturing_Process&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Manufacturing Process - Revision history2024-03-28T13:45:51ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.28.0https://xboxdevwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Manufacturing_Process&diff=6349&oldid=prevCodeasm: /* TSOP programmed in system or from manufactoring? */2018-01-10T17:35:47Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">TSOP programmed in system or from manufactoring?</span></span></p>
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</table>Codeasmhttps://xboxdevwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Manufacturing_Process&diff=6348&oldid=prevCodeasm: /* TSOP programmed in system or from manufactoring? */2018-01-10T16:25:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">TSOP programmed in system or from manufactoring?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Someone pointed me to the following letter: [http://www.ogxbox.com/archive/xboxsecurity.html 17 Mistakes Microsoft Made in the Xbox Security System]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Someone pointed me to the following letter: [http://www.ogxbox.com/archive/xboxsecurity.html 17 Mistakes Microsoft Made in the Xbox Security System]</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>If Michael Steil is right, our wiki page should be altered accordingly, unless this was a asumption based on the observation they made of a potencial leftover from earlier revisions of the MCPX? we should try to know if Steil got this info from an MS or factory source or someone who should know this</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>If Michael Steil is right, our wiki page should be altered accordingly, unless this was a asumption based on the observation they made of a potencial leftover from earlier revisions of the MCPX? we should try to know if Steil got this info from an MS or factory source or someone who should know this</div></td></tr>
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</table>Codeasmhttps://xboxdevwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Manufacturing_Process&diff=6347&oldid=prevCodeasm: /* TSOP programmed in system or from manufactoring? */ new section2018-01-10T16:17:59Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">TSOP programmed in system or from manufactoring?: </span> new section</span></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>== TSOP programmed in system or from manufactoring? ==<br />
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Someone pointed me to the following letter: [http://www.ogxbox.com/archive/xboxsecurity.html 17 Mistakes Microsoft Made in the Xbox Security System]<br />
under section: Modchips its being said that ``` the flash chip gets programmed in-system, the first time they are turned on, using an external LPC ROM chip. ```<br />
If Michael Steil is right, our wiki page should be altered accordingly, unless this was a asumption based on the observation they made of a potencial leftover from earlier revisions of the MCPX? we should try to know if Steil got this info from an MS or factory source or someone who should know this<br />
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--[[User:Codeasm|Codeasm]] ([[User talk:Codeasm|talk]]) 08:17, 10 January 2018 (PST)</div>Codeasm